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SJUhoopNUT
09-25-2005, 11:23 AM
He is a 6'2 junior combo guard from Chaminade High School. According to this article, Norm watched him recently and reportedly liked what he saw. He's getting some mid-major looks right now, Hofstra offered.

Maybe others who know more can chime in.


http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=443&p=2&c=443411

Dkneute
09-25-2005, 12:56 PM
He is a 6'2 junior combo guard from Chaminade High School. According to this article, Norm watched him recently and reportedly liked what he saw. He's getting some mid-major looks right now, Hofstra offered.

Maybe others who know more can chime in.


http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=443&p=2&c=443411

If Norm is looking at him he is probably better than a mid-major recruit (i.e. wiggins). 8)

Section9
09-25-2005, 05:05 PM
Or a fall-back in case all our other guard prospects go elsewhere. To me this is an alarming pattern, it's nice to show love to local kids, but when we're looking at kids that only have mid-major interest it's not good.

As far as comparing this kid to Doug, I don't think it works, he had some major interest before he gave us a verbal.

SJUhoopNUT
09-25-2005, 05:26 PM
I disagree.

Don't get me wrong, we need to start to get the best ballplayers in the area(Fisher, Ebanks), but every program other than a handful has to find some diamonds in the rough. Hopefully, in our 07 class, we won't have to settle, but you need all your options open.

Plus, this kid might turn out to be very good, it's still early.

MCNPA
09-25-2005, 06:46 PM
Uconn signed a guy named Garrison who wasn't in anybody's Top 400. If you call it alarming, that is fine, but I have no problem with Norm looking at local kids at all. Options are a good thing.

Moose
09-25-2005, 06:53 PM
yukon signed a guy named Garrison who wasn't in anybody's Top 400. If you call it alarming, that is fine, but I have no problem with Norm looking at local kids at all. Options are a good thing.

Also looking at someone doesnt mean we are throwing the kitchen sink at them. Lets say 5 yrs from now Chaminade has a stud ranked in the Top 50 and Norm left such an impression that the kid is seriously considering SJU. Then the time spent recruiting this kid was well worth it.

LJSA
09-25-2005, 07:16 PM
The description sounds intriguing to me. And I'm not just saying that because I went to Chaminade.

The kid must be special, though, because sophomores never play on varsity there. I went to school with some big boys that couldn't crack varsity until 11th grade. And they were definitely good enough.

Moose
09-25-2005, 07:53 PM
Does anyone know if he plays AAU ball?
I thought I remember watching a kid by the name of Andrew playing for a really young LI Lightning team at the Port Chester CYP tournament in March.

MCNPA
09-25-2005, 08:10 PM
Not many people thought much about Kyle McAlarney either, and would probably have laughed at the fact that people were looking at him. He blew up and got some big offers.... Give it time and patience. We have a long way to go.

SJUhoopNUT
09-25-2005, 08:55 PM
Moose,

He has played with the LI Lightning for coach Joe Walsh.

FWIW, he had 37 points on the Gauchos recently at is8.

otis
09-25-2005, 09:37 PM
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A side note about Chaminade:

Chaminade High School has a competitive boy's scholastic rowing program.

Last season Chaminade's V8 came in second place at the New york State championships's to St. Anthony. A few weeks later Chaminade finished ahead of St. Anthony's at Nationals in NJ.


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queensfinest
09-25-2005, 09:38 PM
were talking chaminade HS in mineola i assume? if so they are literally in my backyard when im going to school at sju so ill get a good look at him this season. whats his size and position?

SJU85
09-25-2005, 09:48 PM
6'2" combo guard. One thing is for sure, coming from Chaminade, meeting NCAA standards for freshman participation will not be a problem.

braintrust
09-26-2005, 10:18 AM
Chaminade Class of 1980 here, Chaminade is not going to send anyone to St. Johns. If a Chaminade kid is a BE player, he's got Gtown, ND, Marquette. Chaminade lkes to send kids to Catholic schools with good academics.

mkras99
09-26-2005, 10:55 AM
Chaminade Class of 1980 here, Chaminade is not going to send anyone to St. Johns. If a Chaminade kid is a BE player, he's got Gtown, ND, Marquette. Chaminade lkes to send kids to Catholic schools with good academics.

And here I thought kids had some say over where they went :roll: Btw, who is the last Chaminade player who ended up in the BE?

Section9
09-26-2005, 11:04 AM
Mike, excellent point about Chaminade sending kids to the BE. If a kid has BBall potential and wants to go to a LI Catholic HS it doesn't seem like Mineola would be his destination; at least based on recent history.

no hope
09-26-2005, 11:31 AM
The kid is a smart player and a good shooter but he is not a BE talent. He is not at that level and will not be at that level. He is an ok player and the 37 vs the chos, not a big deal look at the chos no Curtis, no Edgar, no terrell, no austin wallace, no pena, all the have is Kashif. The Chos are a down program at this time that needs to be rebuilt and by the way they play no D, the kid is not a bad player but he is not a player that we would want if we are trying to get back to being a High D1 level team.

bobre45
09-26-2005, 01:29 PM
The kid is a smart player and a good shooter but he is not a BE talent. He is not at that level and will not be at that level. He is an ok player and the 37 vs the chos, not a big deal look at the chos no Curtis, no Edgar, no terrell, no austin wallace, no pena, all the have is Kashif. The Chos are a down program at this time that needs to be rebuilt and by the way they play no D, the kid is not a bad player but he is not a player that we would want if we are trying to get back to being a High D1 level team.

Chaminade has had a few kids lately that could have played but probably not started in the BE. Strikes me as a good place to find someone with skills the BE lacks like shooting etc. All the kids with big reputations want to be the center of attraction but every team needs complementary players who can fill a need. We shouldn't ignore any talent source at this point.

gman
09-26-2005, 01:43 PM
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A side note about Chaminade:

Chaminade High School has a competitive boy's scholastic rowing program.

Last season Chaminade's V8 came in second place at the New york State championships's to St. Anthony. A few weeks later Chaminade finished ahead of St. Anthony's at Nationals in NJ.


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Crew has blown up on LI recently. I rowed in HS when there was only 3 teams on LI. The teams were CSH, St. Anthony's, and Friends, and we all rowed out of the same boat house. I went to a regatta to watch my sister last spring, and there was over a down LI schools represented.

no hope
09-26-2005, 03:43 PM
I understand but this kid is not a BE talent, smart kid, nice student ok basketball player but not a BE player.

MCNPA
09-26-2005, 03:59 PM
I think we have our one guard in Wiggins who is alot better than most. We could use a Corey Fischer, not a Beinert. I also would rather have Beatty from the looks of him. No need for SJU to stretch at this point. SJU needs a rock solid 07 class as a foundation for the future. I'm still glad that we are keeping options open though. I just think we can probably and will do better. Another guy worth mentioning is Coburn. Uconn who was rumored the favorite just picked up Dyson who is supposedly going to be a PG at Uconn as well as Ramar Smith at SG. It surely can't hurt in Coburn's recruitment either, nor with Fischer.

MCNPA
09-26-2005, 04:05 PM
BTW, what is the latest on Coburn? I've been out of the loop and haven't heard much about this kid lately....

Section9
09-26-2005, 04:43 PM
MCNPA, is he better than Duke Crews? :wink:

Moose
09-26-2005, 07:04 PM
BTW, what is the latest on Coburn? I've been out of the loop and haven't heard much about this kid lately....

Coburn's stock has seemed to fall lately. He is not a flashy PG like Fisher but knows how to plain and simple run a team. He is a guy that is I think just going to hang around and will land on his feet fine somewhere. Who knows where however. :roll:

MCNPA
09-26-2005, 07:12 PM
MCNPA, is he better than Duke Crews? :wink:

Yes...much better. I've heard that Coburn will transition to the PF position at 5-11 to be the ultimate undersized PF.... :wink:

In truth I still stand by my opinions.

Section9
09-26-2005, 07:13 PM
MCNPA, fair enough! No more Duke Crews references.

braintrust
09-27-2005, 09:12 AM
Who was the last Chaminade BBall player to go BE? One of the Caraher brothers went to Boston College, I don't know if the BE was in effect when that happened. I remember him hitting a gamne winning shot at the Garden.

bobre45
09-27-2005, 10:28 AM
Who was the last Chaminade BBall player to go BE? One of the Caraher brothers went to Boston College, I don't know if the BE was in effect when that happened. I remember him hitting a gamne winning shot at the Garden.

They just graduated a 6'6" kid named Nawrocki who would have held his own as a sub IMO. He looked better than Tim Doyle when I saw him. I think he would up at Johns Hopkins or someplace.

19854ever
09-27-2005, 10:42 AM
Jim Keenan Chaminade class of 1994 grew up in Floral Park, NY walked onto to Notre Dame in the 1995-1996 season for John McLeod, was primaraly a lacrosse player, had a great lacrosse career and played in the MLL for a while for the NJ club.

I beleive that may be the last Chaminade guy to play in the B. East.

LJSA
09-27-2005, 04:49 PM
Dan Nawrocki was a monster for them in the paint; he did go to Hopkins. Brian Werner played for Bucknell, and probably could have sat on a Big East bench coming out of high school. I think he suffered a lot of nagging injuries throughout college, though.

no hope
09-28-2005, 10:21 AM
The kid Nawrocki could not have been a factor on the BE level , no way, Coburn stock has slipped he is same height as he used to be but his shot is not strong and his pure point guard skills average more of a 2/1 then a 1 and not a great shooter, might be a kid who peaked in 9th grade and the other kids are catching up to him.

bobre45
09-28-2005, 11:36 AM
The kid Nawrocki could not have been a factor on the BE level , no way, Coburn stock has slipped he is same height as he used to be but his shot is not strong and his pure point guard skills average more of a 2/1 then a 1 and not a great shooter, might be a kid who peaked in 9th grade and the other kids are catching up to him.

Never really saw Coburn so I'll take your word about him. Regarding Nawrocki, I'm certain he could have competed in the BE but being a "factor" is a whole other thing. Put it this way - WE could have used him last year. He was real tough in the paint and had efficient, economical offensive moves.

kefields
10-01-2005, 09:19 AM
I think with Andrew Beinert is that it will matter more with he does on the AAU circuit than in high School. If he more than hold his own & put up good numbers during the spring & summer of 2006 against better competition ,he can become a national name. Even thought Amityville was winning all those Long Island and state championships, AJ Price & Jason Fraser got their reps for their AAU time. Heck, Tim Doyle would had been at a mid major/high academics college until he had a very good week at the ABCD camp.

SJUhoopNUT
10-28-2005, 07:50 PM
Word is Beinert played very well in the same Metro Classic game that Nash played in.

Perhaps his stock is rising to that BE level.