Tyrone Nash the most underrated player in NY.

[no hope]

Was anyone else at the 2005 Metro Classic yesterday to se Ty Nash Destroy yes thats DESTROY Curtis (Uconn) Kelly yesterday. It was so bad for Curtis that as he was fouled going up for a dunk in the 2nd quarter he said to the kid dont you know its an all star game. Curtis wanted the kid to let him dunk. Tyrone Nash is so underrated he does everything you want in a HS forward, he can play down in the boxes he can take his game outside he is strong and nasty on the court. he is a team player and he does not have any attitude. He night be undersized for a college four but his game is more complete than Curtis Kelly right now, there isnothing Curtis does that Nash can not do, and to tell you the truth right now he is a better player than curtis. This is a kid who will be a college STEAL. Also for all you guys who knock DC for being out of shape , look at Curtis his game and body have not improved since 8th grade his is rail thin his legs are like pencils he can be moved off the blocks by a twig and he is all left hand. Tyrone right now is a better player and prospect than curtis but he does not have the name, anyone who saw him push curtis around and throughly out play him knows this!

[MCNPA]

Was anyone else at the 2005 Metro Classic yesterday to se Ty Nash Destroy yes thats DESTROY Curtis (yukon) Kelly yesterday. It was so bad for Curtis that as he was fouled going up for a dunk in the 2nd quarter he said to the kid dont you know its an all star game. Curtis wanted the kid to let him dunk. Tyrone Nash is so underrated he does everything you want in a HS forward, he can play down in the boxes he can take his game outside he is strong and nasty on the court. he is a team player and he does not have any attitude. He night be undersized for a college four but his game is more complete than Curtis Kelly right now, there isnothing Curtis does that Nash can not do, and to tell you the truth right now he is a better player than curtis. This is a kid who will be a college STEAL. Also for all you guys who knock DC for being out of shape , look at Curtis his game and body have not improved since 8th grade his is rail thin his legs are like pencils he can be moved off the blocks by a twig and he is all left hand. Tyrone right now is a better player and prospect than curtis but he does not have the name, anyone who saw him push curtis around and throughly out play him knows this!

Are we recruiting Tyrone Nash? What year is he? Was the SJU staff at the Metro Classic?

[rutld1]

[quote="no hope":ie33qycn]Was anyone else at the 2005 Metro Classic yesterday to se Ty Nash Destroy yes thats DESTROY Curtis (yukon) Kelly yesterday. It was so bad for Curtis that as he was fouled going up for a dunk in the 2nd quarter he said to the kid dont you know its an all star game. Curtis wanted the kid to let him dunk. Tyrone Nash is so underrated he does everything you want in a HS forward, he can play down in the boxes he can take his game outside he is strong and nasty on the court. he is a team player and he does not have any attitude. He night be undersized for a college four but his game is more complete than Curtis Kelly right now, there isnothing Curtis does that Nash can not do, and to tell you the truth right now he is a better player than curtis. This is a kid who will be a college STEAL. Also for all you guys who knock DC for being out of shape , look at Curtis his game and body have not improved since 8th grade his is rail thin his legs are like pencils he can be moved off the blocks by a twig and he is all left hand. Tyrone right now is a better player and prospect than curtis but he does not have the name, anyone who saw him push curtis around and throughly out play him knows this!

Are we recruiting Tyrone Nash? What year is he? Was the SJU staff at the Metro Classic?[/quote:ie33qycn]

Yes. class of 2006. Don't know.

Supposedly we offered if he prepped. I think he's young like Austin Wallace. He's got a long list on scout.com


http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=403&p=8&c= ... 52&refid=1 (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=403&p=8&c=1&nid=1607652&refid=1)

[mkras99]

[quote="no hope":1nmg8yeq]Was anyone else at the 2005 Metro Classic yesterday to se Ty Nash Destroy yes thats DESTROY Curtis (yukon) Kelly yesterday. It was so bad for Curtis that as he was fouled going up for a dunk in the 2nd quarter he said to the kid dont you know its an all star game. Curtis wanted the kid to let him dunk. Tyrone Nash is so underrated he does everything you want in a HS forward, he can play down in the boxes he can take his game outside he is strong and nasty on the court. he is a team player and he does not have any attitude. He night be undersized for a college four but his game is more complete than Curtis Kelly right now, there isnothing Curtis does that Nash can not do, and to tell you the truth right now he is a better player than curtis. This is a kid who will be a college STEAL. Also for all you guys who knock DC for being out of shape , look at Curtis his game and body have not improved since 8th grade his is rail thin his legs are like pencils he can be moved off the blocks by a twig and he is all left hand. Tyrone right now is a better player and prospect than curtis but he does not have the name, anyone who saw him push curtis around and throughly out play him knows this!

Are we recruiting Tyrone Nash? What year is he? Was the SJU staff at the Metro Classic?

Yes. class of 2006. Don't know.

Supposedly we offered if he prepped. I think he's young like Austin Wallace. He's got a long list on scout.com


http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=403&p=8&c= ... 52&refid=1 (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=403&p=8&c=1&nid=1607652&refid=1)[/quote:1nmg8yeq]

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[MCNPA]

I guess that our staff wants him in the 07 class. My guess is that with our lack of schollies for 06 and dearth for 07, he'd be a great pickup for 07. Sounds like a good prospect for us.

[MCNPA]

The problem is No Hope, that very few on this board would see landing Nash as a success because of his ranking. Newsie would still be saying that we're letting the best NY players leave.

[rutld1]

The problem is No Hope, that very few on this board would see landing Nash as a success because of his ranking. Newsie would still be saying that we're letting the best NY players leave.

Who cares what they say? If he is a good player you take him. I'm an Oklahoma Sooner football fan and they have people calling for Bob Stoops's head because they are 4-3 this season. You just got laugh them off. The other half is complaining about the highly ranked classes they've had and wish they would recruit harder working lower ranked players. Bottom Line is we need some frontcourt help. I would love if we could get Burrell or maybe Nash in the 2006 class.

[no hope]

Ranking are BS , this kid can really play, he is the best forward in ny hands down right now, if you watch him play he has everything you need and he is a very good kid, The kid is the goods and hegets better and better if you saw him in 7th and 8th grade and you see him now you saw WOW if you saw him last year and see him now you say WOW, he is on the upswing where as Curtis is the same player now as he was in 7th and 8th grade he is not improving his game. If Nash was on a big HS and did not play in Corey's shadow in AAU every one would be all over him. If Curtis is top 50 player there is no way Nash is not a top 50 level player. We should be all over this kid he is better than any recruit Norm has brought in.

[gman]

this kid he is better than any recruit Norm has brought in.

Thats a big statement considering DW, Calhoun, Mason, and Torres are top-flight recruits.

[MCNPA]

Ranking are BS , this kid can really play, he is the best forward in ny hands down right now, if you watch him play he has everything you need and he is a very good kid, The kid is the goods and hegets better and better if you saw him in 7th and 8th grade and you see him now you saw WOW if you saw him last year and see him now you say WOW, he is on the upswing where as Curtis is the same player now as he was in 7th and 8th grade he is not improving his game. If Nash was on a big HS and did not play in Corey's shadow in AAU every one would be all over him. If Curtis is top 50 player there is no way Nash is not a top 50 level player. We should be all over this kid he is better than any recruit Norm has brought in.

You're preaching to the choir, because most know that I'm not big on the rankings either. I believe that he is probably a very good player. I do think you should see Q. Calhoun before you say he's better than all of em. Calhoun is tremendous and has fantastic upside. Wiggins and Mason are also excellent recruits. Fact is that Norm is bringing in kids that are very high level, whether they are ranked highly or not. Future is looking brighter all the time. I'd have no problem adding more forwards. Only problem is that I don't see us adding both Nash and Ebanks. We'd have a dearth of wings and combo forwards with Mason, Calhoun, Gray, Ebanks, Nash.

[johnsliva]

You make room for a smart, team playing quality kid with a heart and a bit of nasty. Nasty eats up players 4 inches taller. I dod not hear anyone complaining that duke crews was too small. I understandind we are out of ships for 06 and i guess the only solution is if mase pays his own way or we lose someone, (Hill - NBA?)(Gray, cj to someplace they will play more) I dont think Norm will just drop kids but some may see the hanwritting on the wall with the influx of new quality players.

I would hate to lose a kid who wants to come here who is a warrior and smart to boot.

[redmannorth]

[quote="no hope":3talmskg]Was anyone else at the 2005 Metro Classic yesterday to se Ty Nash Destroy yes thats DESTROY Curtis (yukon) Kelly yesterday. It was so bad for Curtis that as he was fouled going up for a dunk in the 2nd quarter he said to the kid dont you know its an all star game. Curtis wanted the kid to let him dunk. Tyrone Nash is so underrated he does everything you want in a HS forward, he can play down in the boxes he can take his game outside he is strong and nasty on the court. he is a team player and he does not have any attitude. He night be undersized for a college four but his game is more complete than Curtis Kelly right now, there isnothing Curtis does that Nash can not do, and to tell you the truth right now he is a better player than curtis. This is a kid who will be a college STEAL. Also for all you guys who knock DC for being out of shape , look at Curtis his game and body have not improved since 8th grade his is rail thin his legs are like pencils he can be moved off the blocks by a twig and he is all left hand. Tyrone right now is a better player and prospect than curtis but he does not have the name, anyone who saw him push curtis around and throughly out play him knows this!

Are we recruiting Tyrone Nash? What year is he? Was the SJU staff at the Metro Classic?

Yes. class of 2006. Don't know.

Supposedly we offered if he prepped. I think he's young like Austin Wallace. He's got a long list on scout.com


http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=403&p=8&c= ... 52&refid=1 (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=403&p=8&c=1&nid=1607652&refid=1)[/quote:3talmskg]

Very good kid who happens to be very young for his class. A year of prep would be great for him .

[gman]

You make room for a smart, team playing quality kid with a heart and a bit of nasty. Nasty eats up players 4 inches taller. I dod not hear anyone complaining that duke crews was too small. I understandind we are out of ships for 06 and i guess the only solution is if mase pays his own way or we lose someone, (Hill - NBA?)(Gray, cj to someplace they will play more) I dont think Norm will just drop kids but some may see the hanwritting on the wall with the influx of new quality players.

I would hate to lose a kid who wants to come here who is a warrior and smart to boot.

I don't see anyone transferring. I'm sure Norm was honest to these kids, they couldn't expect to be 4 year starters.

[MCNPA]

I don't have a problem with him for 07 either. I'd love to have a kid like that. Just hard to recruit all of these forwards that are similar in many ways. I do think that for 07, we need a guard or two and a real PF/C

[mkras99]

Only problem is that I don't see us adding both Nash and Ebanks. We'd have a dearth of wings and combo forwards with Mason, Calhoun, Gray, Ebanks, Nash.

I think you mean a surplus. Gray isn't a combo forward. Personally, I'd like to have as many good combo forwards/wings as possible.

[mkras99]

You make room for a smart, team playing quality kid with a heart and a bit of nasty. Nasty eats up players 4 inches taller. I dod not hear anyone complaining that duke crews was too small. I understandind we are out of ships for 06 and i guess the only solution is if mase pays his own way or we lose someone, (Hill - NBA?)(Gray, cj to someplace they will play more) I dont think Norm will just drop kids but some may see the hanwritting on the wall with the influx of new quality players.

I would hate to lose a kid who wants to come here who is a warrior and smart to boot.

I don't see anyone transferring. I'm sure Norm was honest to these kids, they couldn't expect to be 4 year starters.

You never know though. These guys might go from playing 30 mins./game as freshmen to playing 5 mins./game as juniors.

[johnsliva]

I don't see why he would prep. The kid is smart and will have no trouble making the grade. Someone will offer, and I do not see him preping a year just because we want him. If we have guards who can shoot (and we should already having douggie and either of fisher or beaty) having t2 aggressive tweener forwards in Q and Nash would be fine. If we get ebanks in 07 to boot he can play the 4.

I agree we do need a banger/center but dont see one on the horizon till 08.

[mkras99]

I don't see why he would prep. The kid is smart and will have no trouble making the grade. Someone will offer, and I do not see him preping a year just because we want him. If we have guards who can shoot (and we should already having douggie and either of fisher or beaty) having t2 aggressive tweener forwards in Q and Nash would be fine. If we get ebanks in 07 to boot he can play the 4.

I agree we do need a banger/center but dont see one on the horizon till 08.

He might prep to help himself out so he can help himself basketball-wise.

[Dkneute]

I don't see why he would prep. The kid is smart and will have no trouble making the grade. Someone will offer, and I do not see him preping a year just because we want him. If we have guards who can shoot (and we should already having douggie and either of fisher or beaty) having t2 aggressive tweener forwards in Q and Nash would be fine. If we get ebanks in 07 to boot he can play the 4.

I agree we do need a banger/center but dont see one on the horizon till 08.

As of right now, if Q Calhoun comes in 2006 we do not have a Scholarship left in 2006.

[kred]

You make room for a smart, team playing quality kid with a heart and a bit of nasty. Nasty eats up players 4 inches taller. I dod not hear anyone complaining that duke crews was too small. I understandind we are out of ships for 06 and i guess the only solution is if mase pays his own way or we lose someone, (Hill - NBA?)(Gray, cj to someplace they will play more) I dont think Norm will just drop kids but some may see the hanwritting on the wall with the influx of new quality players.

I would hate to lose a kid who wants to come here who is a warrior and smart to boot.

I don't see anyone transferring. I'm sure Norm was honest to these kids, they couldn't expect to be 4 year starters.

You never know though. These guys might go from playing 30 mins./game as freshmen to playing 5 mins./game as juniors.

Exactly, which is why this year is key for last years freshmen class - especially CJack. It happens all the time. Kids get recruited over. And while we haven't had this situation happen too often, we are on course for it to happen next year.

Also, I've seen Nash's name before, but I've forgotten. What's his size and where is he going to school ?

[newsman13]

The problem is No Hope, that very few on this board would see landing Nash as a success because of his ranking. Newsie would still be saying that we're letting the best NY players leave.

you've never seen me post about an individual player. with the exception of mount vernon last year (they played my daughter's high school) i haven't seen ANY of them.

my philosophy in general is you don't win national championships with a bunch of walkons...you win with top talent. that has nothing to do with nash.

as far as letting the BEST ny players leave...can anyone of you please step forward and tell me where they are?

[Marillac]

You make room for a smart, team playing quality kid with a heart and a bit of nasty. Nasty eats up players 4 inches taller. I dod not hear anyone complaining that duke crews was too small. I understandind we are out of ships for 06 and i guess the only solution is if mase pays his own way or we lose someone, (Hill - NBA?)(Gray, cj to someplace they will play more) I dont think Norm will just drop kids but some may see the hanwritting on the wall with the influx of new quality players.

I would hate to lose a kid who wants to come here who is a warrior and smart to boot.

I don't see anyone transferring. I'm sure Norm was honest to these kids, they couldn't expect to be 4 year starters.

He's a 6-6 (some sites say 6-6 1/2) PF with some oustside skill. According to scout.com, he is going to Lawrence-Woodmere--which I believe is the same school that R.J. Rutledge plays at. I would think that would be a great in for our program.

You never know though. These guys might go from playing 30 mins./game as freshmen to playing 5 mins./game as juniors.

Exactly, which is why this year is key for last years freshmen class - especially CJack. It happens all the time. Kids get recruited over. And while we haven't had this situation happen too often, we are on course for it to happen next year.

Also, I've seen Nash's name before, but I've forgotten. What's his size and where is he going to school ?

[MCNPA]

The problem is No Hope, that very few on this board would see landing Nash as a success because of his ranking. Newsie would still be saying that we're letting the best NY players leave.

you've never seen me post about an individual player. with the exception of mount vernon last year (they played my daughter's high school) i haven't seen ANY of them.

my philosophy in general is you don't win national championships with a bunch of walkons...you win with top talent. that has nothing to do with nash.

as far as letting the BEST ny players leave...can anyone of you please step forward and tell me where they are?

You're right, because some of the players in the Tri-state are as good or better. Wiggins is one of the Top senior guards in the metro area as is Calhoun one of the best forwards. I'd take Calhoun over just about any senior NY forwards, and that includes guys like Kelly. I actually think that Calhoun has as much upside if not more.

[MCNPA]

[quote="MCN PA":2snxxr7s]The problem is No Hope, that very few on this board would see landing Nash as a success because of his ranking. Newsie would still be saying that we're letting the best NY players leave.

you've never seen me post about an individual player. with the exception of mount vernon last year (they played my daughter's high school) i haven't seen ANY of them.

my philosophy in general is you don't win national championships with a bunch of walkons...you win with top talent. that has nothing to do with nash.

as far as letting the BEST ny players leave...can anyone of you please step forward and tell me where they are?

You're right, because some of the players in the Tri-state are as good or better. Wiggins is one of the Top senior guards in the metro area as is Calhoun one of the best forwards. I'd take Calhoun over just about any senior NY forwards, and that includes guys like Kelly. I actually think that Calhoun has as much upside if not more.[/quote:2snxxr7s]

I've been high on Calhoun for a while and I think that people here will be too...

[no hope]

Nash is right now as good a player as Calhoun, and he is getting better and better, why should he prep he will get a good ship with a quality program I just hope it is ours and over the next four years I think he will be an solid player that makes an impact on a team, I love the kids with great ability , a solid work ethic and a good person, he will be better than Kelly over the next four years and you see how everyone was on the Kelly bandwagon. Nash is a kid on the rise his hs team will be good this year they have some nice talent, they have some decent games on their schedule so Nash will continue to get better.

[traczok]

Nash is right now as good a player as Calhoun, and he is getting better and better, why should he prep he will get a good ship with a quality program I just hope it is ours and over the next four years I think he will be an solid player that makes an impact on a team, I love the kids with great ability , a solid work ethic and a good person, he will be better than Kelly over the next four years and you see how everyone was on the Kelly bandwagon. Nash is a kid on the rise his hs team will be good this year they have some nice talent, they have some decent games on their schedule so Nash will continue to get better.

I am not sure why we can't offer a kid like Nash, we don't know if Hill is coming back and there has to be a way to get him a ship.

[mkras99]

I am not sure why we can't offer a kid like Nash, we don't know if Hill is coming back and there has to be a way to get him a ship.

How?

[traczok]

I am not sure why we can't offer a kid like Nash, we don't know if Hill is coming back and there has to be a way to get him a ship.

How?

Maybe we have 13 ships next year, maybe Hill leaves, who knows? Other programs offer more than they have, why not us.

[MCNPA]

Ted... I will point you towards a gentleman named Mr. David Copperfield. I think he can figure out how to squeeze some blood out of this stone..... :wink:

[SJUhoopNUT]

Sounds like he can play some 4. He's young, so he may be growing. Could be a great option for us this spring, or if he preps, in 07. Hope we get more seriously involved if we arent already.

[basseyball]

The problem is No Hope, that very few on this board would see landing Nash as a success because of his ranking. Newsie would still be saying that we're letting the best NY players leave.

Who cares what they say? If he is a good player you take him. I'm an Oklahoma Sooner football fan and they have people calling for Bob Stoops's head because they are 4-3 this season. You just got laugh them off. The other half is complaining about the highly ranked classes they've had and wish they would recruit harder working lower ranked players. Bottom Line is we need some frontcourt help. I would love if we could get Burrell or maybe Nash in the 2006 class.

Burrell and Nash are very different players. Justin's a center and plays around the basket. Ty is more like a big 3, so I don't think they're at all interchangeable. I think if I had to choose between them without regard for team need, I'd take Ty. He is a bit raw though but a great athlete.

[kred]

Ted... I will point you towards a gentleman named Mr. David Copperfield. I think he can figure out how to squeeze some blood out of this stone..... :wink:

More like what Calhoun did with Will Harris. Recruited over him before he ever played a minute. I know that doesn't work in our case but I agree with Ted - other schools find a way to "Git R' Done".

[still happy]

The problem is No Hope, that very few on this board would see landing Nash as a success because of his ranking. Newsie would still be saying that we're letting the best NY players leave.

Who cares what they say? If he is a good player you take him. I'm an Oklahoma Sooner football fan and they have people calling for Bob Stoops's head because they are 4-3 this season. You just got laugh them off. The other half is complaining about the highly ranked classes they've had and wish they would recruit harder working lower ranked players. Bottom Line is we need some frontcourt help. I would love if we could get Burrell or maybe Nash in the 2006 class.

Burrell and Nash are very different players. Justin's a center and plays around the basket. Ty is more like a big 3, so I don't think they're at all interchangeable. I think if I had to choose between them without regard for team need, I'd take Ty. He is a bit raw though but a great athlete.

Bassey.. I hate to say this.. but your take on Burell on Nah are a little off.. First Justin is not and will not be a college center.. He does dunk everything close to the basket due to his superior athleticism.. His back to the basket game leaves alot to be desired however.. Second .. Ty Nash is such a versatile player ( and i love the kids game ) that he could play 3 positions at the next level.. He is a great passer and really goes hard every time i have seen him... He wouldnt be a big 3 though because at the present time he is 6'6 / 6'7 .. Unless he grew some which i think one poster said he has tall parents.. The only knock on Tyrone is the thing you praised him for.. Which is his athleticism.. He is a good athlete.. but not great . If anyone is the great athlete it is Burell.. I would take Nash over Justin in a second if i had my pick of players. :D

[traczok]

Ted... I will point you towards a gentleman named Mr. David Copperfield. I think he can figure out how to squeeze some blood out of this stone..... :wink:

More like what Calhoun did with Will Harris. Recruited over him before he ever played a minute. I know that doesn't work in our case but I agree with Ted - other schools find a way to "Git R' Done".

Thanks for agreeing with me, all I am trying to say is that we need depth up front and need to have a backup plan should Calhoun fail to qualify but telling the kid (assuming he really is that good) that we will onlt take him as an 07 is a mistake in my opinion. Recruit him as if we have the ship and figure out what to do later.

[rutld1]

The problem is No Hope, that very few on this board would see landing Nash as a success because of his ranking. Newsie would still be saying that we're letting the best NY players leave.

Who cares what they say? If he is a good player you take him. I'm an Oklahoma Sooner football fan and they have people calling for Bob Stoops's head because they are 4-3 this season. You just got laugh them off. The other half is complaining about the highly ranked classes they've had and wish they would recruit harder working lower ranked players. Bottom Line is we need some frontcourt help. I would love if we could get Burrell or maybe Nash in the 2006 class.

Burrell and Nash are very different players. Justin's a center and plays around the basket. Ty is more like a big 3, so I don't think they're at all interchangeable. I think if I had to choose between them without regard for team need, I'd take Ty. He is a bit raw though but a great athlete.


Everything I've read indicates Nash is a small 4. To be a 3 in college you need to be a good ball handler. Its one thing to be a ball handler in high shcool and another thing to be one in the Big East. BTW Kmase has Nash rated #15 in NYC and JPM has him rated #40 in NYC and NJ.

My take is Burrell is a PF that is very raw but extremely athletic. I think he has only played basketball for a couple of years. It seems he has a lot of potential. Kmase has him at #8 and JPM has him at #21.

I feel the same way about Ebanks and Calhoun. They are both quick and athletic but I think they are both 4s on the college level. Of course if someone has seen them play in person I would defer to them. Based on Calhoun's video I think there is no doubt he is a 4. I think he could be very good player for us. The fact that he can step out and hit an outside shot doesn't make him a 3. It just makes him that much more effective in Norm's high low offense.

Next year we'll have Lamont, Spears, Calhoun, Gray and TJ for the frontcourt. It will be Lamont's and Spears last year which will leave us with Calhoun, Gray and TJ plus whatever Freshman from the 2007 class. If we can't get that top tier recruit(Ebanks) for 2007 than I think we'll be a bit short in the frontcourt. That's why I think it would be nice to add a Nash or Burrell.

As far as being a schollie short, maybe Daryll declares for the draft or better yet maybe the NCAA decides we were too harsh on ourselves and gives us our schollies back. :wink:

[MCNPA]

The problem is No Hope, that very few on this board would see landing Nash as a success because of his ranking. Newsie would still be saying that we're letting the best NY players leave.

Who cares what they say? If he is a good player you take him. I'm an Oklahoma Sooner football fan and they have people calling for Bob Stoops's head because they are 4-3 this season. You just got laugh them off. The other half is complaining about the highly ranked classes they've had and wish they would recruit harder working lower ranked players. Bottom Line is we need some frontcourt help. I would love if we could get Burrell or maybe Nash in the 2006 class.

Burrell and Nash are very different players. Justin's a center and plays around the basket. Ty is more like a big 3, so I don't think they're at all interchangeable. I think if I had to choose between them without regard for team need, I'd take Ty. He is a bit raw though but a great athlete.


Everything I've read indicates Nash is a small 4. To be a 3 in college you need to be a good ball handler. Its one thing to be a ball handler in high shcool and another thing to be one in the Big East. BTW Kmase has Nash rated #15 in NYC and JPM has him rated #40 in NYC and NJ.

My take is Burrell is a PF that is very raw but extremely athletic. I think he has only played basketball for a couple of years. It seems he has a lot of potential. Kmase has him at #8 and JPM has him at #21.

I feel the same way about Ebanks and Calhoun. They are both quick and athletic but I think they are both 4s on the college level. Of course if someone has seen them play in person I would defer to them. Based on Calhoun's video I think there is no doubt he is a 4. I think he could be very good player for us. The fact that he can step out and hit an outside shot doesn't make him a 3. It just makes him that much more effective in Norm's high low offense.

Next year we'll have Lamont, Spears, Calhoun, Gray and TJ for the frontcourt. It will be Lamont's and Spears last year which will leave us with Calhoun, Gray and TJ plus whatever Freshman from the 2007 class. If we can't get that top tier recruit(Ebanks) for 2007 than I think we'll be a bit short in the frontcourt. That's why I think it would be nice to add a Nash or Burrell.

As far as being a schollie short, maybe Daryll declares for the draft or better yet maybe the NCAA decides we were too harsh on ourselves and gives us our schollies back. :wink:

Rut, Calhoun can play the 3 or 4 at his height. He is equally equipped for both to tell the truth. I think he's probably more of a 4 right now, but at the next level could be a 3. At St. John's I can see a frontcourt of Hamilton, Calhoun and Mason being VERY hard to stop.

[basseyball]

[quote="MCN PA":gyf3koih]The problem is No Hope, that very few on this board would see landing Nash as a success because of his ranking. Newsie would still be saying that we're letting the best NY players leave.

Who cares what they say? If he is a good player you take him. I'm an Oklahoma Sooner football fan and they have people calling for Bob Stoops's head because they are 4-3 this season. You just got laugh them off. The other half is complaining about the highly ranked classes they've had and wish they would recruit harder working lower ranked players. Bottom Line is we need some frontcourt help. I would love if we could get Burrell or maybe Nash in the 2006 class.

Burrell and Nash are very different players. Justin's a center and plays around the basket. Ty is more like a big 3, so I don't think they're at all interchangeable. I think if I had to choose between them without regard for team need, I'd take Ty. He is a bit raw though but a great athlete.

Bassey.. I hate to say this.. but your take on Burell on Nah are a little off.. First Justin is not and will not be a college center.. He does dunk everything close to the basket due to his superior athleticism.. His back to the basket game leaves alot to be desired however.. Second .. Ty Nash is such a versatile player ( and i love the kids game ) that he could play 3 positions at the next level.. He is a great passer and really goes hard every time i have seen him... He wouldnt be a big 3 though because at the present time he is 6'6 / 6'7 .. Unless he grew some which i think one poster said he has tall parents.. The only knock on Tyrone is the thing you praised him for.. Which is his athleticism.. He is a good athlete.. but not great . If anyone is the great athlete it is Burell.. I would take Nash over Justin in a second if i had my pick of players. :D[/quote:gyf3koih]

Still Happy,
I'll have to defer to you because you've probably seen them play a lot more than I have. I saw them both just the one AAU game and both impressed me. My feeling is that Justin looked really comfortable close in and that Ty had too much energy to be stuck in the paint.

[basseyball]

The problem is No Hope, that very few on this board would see landing Nash as a success because of his ranking. Newsie would still be saying that we're letting the best NY players leave.

Who cares what they say? If he is a good player you take him. I'm an Oklahoma Sooner football fan and they have people calling for Bob Stoops's head because they are 4-3 this season. You just got laugh them off. The other half is complaining about the highly ranked classes they've had and wish they would recruit harder working lower ranked players. Bottom Line is we need some frontcourt help. I would love if we could get Burrell or maybe Nash in the 2006 class.

Burrell and Nash are very different players. Justin's a center and plays around the basket. Ty is more like a big 3, so I don't think they're at all interchangeable. I think if I had to choose between them without regard for team need, I'd take Ty. He is a bit raw though but a great athlete.


Everything I've read indicates Nash is a small 4. To be a 3 in college you need to be a good ball handler. Its one thing to be a ball handler in high shcool and another thing to be one in the Big East. BTW Kmase has Nash rated #15 in NYC and JPM has him rated #40 in NYC and NJ.

My take is Burrell is a PF that is very raw but extremely athletic. I think he has only played basketball for a couple of years. It seems he has a lot of potential. Kmase has him at #8 and JPM has him at #21.

I feel the same way about Ebanks and Calhoun. They are both quick and athletic but I think they are both 4s on the college level. Of course if someone has seen them play in person I would defer to them. Based on Calhoun's video I think there is no doubt he is a 4. I think he could be very good player for us. The fact that he can step out and hit an outside shot doesn't make him a 3. It just makes him that much more effective in Norm's high low offense.

Next year we'll have Lamont, Spears, Calhoun, Gray and TJ for the frontcourt. It will be Lamont's and Spears last year which will leave us with Calhoun, Gray and TJ plus whatever Freshman from the 2007 class. If we can't get that top tier recruit(Ebanks) for 2007 than I think we'll be a bit short in the frontcourt. That's why I think it would be nice to add a Nash or Burrell.

As far as being a schollie short, maybe Daryll declares for the draft or better yet maybe the NCAA decides we were too harsh on ourselves and gives us our schollies back. :wink:

There are plenty of 2's in college that are not very good ball handlers. If we were looking to run and had Doug Wiggens and Corey Fisher in the game, we can afford a 3 who could handle the ball in HS to finish or make the third pass.

[still happy]

[quote="MCN PA":3ncch7xl]The problem is No Hope, that very few on this board would see landing Nash as a success because of his ranking. Newsie would still be saying that we're letting the best NY players leave.

Who cares what they say? If he is a good player you take him. I'm an Oklahoma Sooner football fan and they have people calling for Bob Stoops's head because they are 4-3 this season. You just got laugh them off. The other half is complaining about the highly ranked classes they've had and wish they would recruit harder working lower ranked players. Bottom Line is we need some frontcourt help. I would love if we could get Burrell or maybe Nash in the 2006 class.

Burrell and Nash are very different players. Justin's a center and plays around the basket. Ty is more like a big 3, so I don't think they're at all interchangeable. I think if I had to choose between them without regard for team need, I'd take Ty. He is a bit raw though but a great athlete.

Bassey.. I hate to say this.. but your take on Burell on Nah are a little off.. First Justin is not and will not be a college center.. He does dunk everything close to the basket due to his superior athleticism.. His back to the basket game leaves alot to be desired however.. Second .. Ty Nash is such a versatile player ( and i love the kids game ) that he could play 3 positions at the next level.. He is a great passer and really goes hard every time i have seen him... He wouldnt be a big 3 though because at the present time he is 6'6 / 6'7 .. Unless he grew some which i think one poster said he has tall parents.. The only knock on Tyrone is the thing you praised him for.. Which is his athleticism.. He is a good athlete.. but not great . If anyone is the great athlete it is Burell.. I would take Nash over Justin in a second if i had my pick of players. :D

Still Happy,
I'll have to defer to you because you've probably seen them play a lot more than I have. I saw them both just the one AAU game and both impressed me. My feeling is that Justin looked really comfortable close in and that Ty had too much energy to be stuck in the paint.[/quote:3ncch7xl]

Bassey.. You saw the right guy then in Nash :D He really plays hard.. He will be a steal for any college team who gets him.. Just imagine how he will be when he gets in top shape.. Last i saw him he still had baby fat on him.. :D

[SJUhoopNUT]

According to an update on Nash today on scout.com, he is more than likely headed to a prep school. Here is his comment:

"I have been thinking about Northfield Mount Hermon or Blair Academy," Nash said. "I want to take another year so I can improve my strength and work on my individual game."

http://hsnewyork.scout.com/2/457864.html

[MCNPA]

According to an update on Nash today on scout.com, he is more than likely headed to a prep school. Here is his comment:

"I have been thinking about Northfield Mount Hermon or Blair Academy," Nash said. "I want to take another year so I can improve my strength and work on my individual game."

http://hsnewyork.scout.com/2/457864.html

Hmm.. Norm says to the kid he'll get a scholarship if he preps a year. Now the kid is prepping... Good sign for SJU?? I'm the optimist so I'll keep my hopes high that we can grab him for 07 :wink:

[basseyball]

According to an update on Nash today on scout.com, he is more than likely headed to a prep school. Here is his comment:

"I have been thinking about Northfield Mount Hermon or Blair Academy," Nash said. "I want to take another year so I can improve my strength and work on my individual game."

http://hsnewyork.scout.com/2/457864.html

Hmm.. Norm says to the kid he'll get a scholarship if he preps a year. Now the kid is prepping... Good sign for SJU?? I'm the optimist so I'll keep my hopes high that we can grab him for 07 :wink:

MCN PA, you don't have to be the eternal optimist to imagine that this could be great news for us as far a recruiting Ty Nash goes.

[MCNPA]

According to an update on Nash today on scout.com, he is more than likely headed to a prep school. Here is his comment:

"I have been thinking about Northfield Mount Hermon or Blair Academy," Nash said. "I want to take another year so I can improve my strength and work on my individual game."

http://hsnewyork.scout.com/2/457864.html

Hmm.. Norm says to the kid he'll get a scholarship if he preps a year. Now the kid is prepping... Good sign for SJU?? I'm the optimist so I'll keep my hopes high that we can grab him for 07 :wink:

MCN PA, you don't have to be the eternal optimist to imagine that this could be great news for us as far a recruiting Ty Nash goes.

Hey, I figure I'll be pegged as part of the gee whizzer party, so I might as well state it up front...

[johnsliva]

If this is truly the case i want to steal norms coolaid and put it in the resoiviors upstate. Its time for all the NC kids to start thinking SJU first :)