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Recruiting Impact on “Scandal Schools” 1 month 2 days ago #379936

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Seton Hall had violations, stole Whitehead from us hiring his HS coach, spoke to the Cuse kid while still at Cuse and transferred, UConn tampered with Sid (thank god...he sucks but still), USC gets all these violations but get Brooks back, Creighton gets violations for Patton, Louisville scandal but they keep rolling along as a blue blood.

Sometimes it feels like we are one of the few programs not willing to muck it up a bit. I'm not sure how I feel about that. I'm sure under Lavin we mucked it up to get big time recruits here. Honestly, if no one is being held accountable who cares? Recruiting violations and paying recruits is akin to jay walking now. Everyone does it knowing it's illegal but very few get any real consequence.

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At Arizona, Truth Without the Consequences / N.Y. Times Sports 1 month 2 days ago #379940

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sjc88 wrote: Funny, how the business partners (aka ESPN, FoxSports, CBS Dickie V, Jay Bilas amongst many, many others) are either muted or strangely silent in the face of what should be a huge story. Corrupt shoe companies, families getting paid, schools openly cheating and looking the other way. Where are all the investigative reports or other sanctimonious crap uncovering this stuff. You rightly see more outrage over the baseball cheating scandal yet this one, for the most part flies under the radar. But hey, come full out your March Madness Tournament brackets with Arizona and Kansas and other cheaters in the Dance!


Mostly because they all have a piece of that corrupt pie, either directly or indirectly.



That is probably a good part of the reason but there is also a part that there is support that the players should be getting paid.

The MLB scandal is millionaire players cheated with the support and influence of the manager, his staff and the financial support of the front office, not some sneaker company, agent or booster.


From where I sit cheating is cheating, rationalizing it doesn't make it anything different. And frankly, I would be hard pressed to find someone who could successfully argue schools are currently paying players to right some perceived wrong, that coaches and sneaker companies are really just modern day Robin Hoods. Maybe Johnny Cochran but I don't think he's available.


I am not saying they didn’t cheat nor am I justifying or it. Just telling you how there are people out there including as you can tell on this Board who feel Colleges athletes should be paid especially with the money some of these schools and coaches make.


Well, you were the one who posted you thought part of the reason the basketball centric announcers and media were ignoring the obvious cheating was because they thought players should be paid, not me.

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Yes I said part of the reason why there is not as much outrage in general as the baseball cheating scandal was because of that. I did not say I agreed with that reasoning. There should be more outrage and investigative reporting.


Obviously my bad. I’ll remember next time to check before commenting whether or not you agree with your own post. My apologies for wasting both our times, not to mention those who may have bothered to read.


I posted about a possible reason why there might not be as much outrage as part of a discussion, I did not say that I agreed with that reason. I didn’t know there was a rule that you couldn’t bring up a different point of view from your own as part of a discussion on this Board.


There is none, like I said, my bad.

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Recruiting Impact on “Scandal Schools” 1 month 2 days ago #379941

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Mike Zaun wrote: Seton Hall had violations, stole Whitehead from us hiring his HS coach, spoke to the Cuse kid while still at Cuse and transferred, UConn tampered with Sid (thank god...he sucks but still), USC gets all these violations but get Brooks back, Creighton gets violations for Patton, Louisville scandal but they keep rolling along as a blue blood.

Sometimes it feels like we are one of the few programs not willing to muck it up a bit. I'm not sure how I feel about that. I'm sure under Lavin we mucked it up to get big time recruits here. Honestly, if no one is being held accountable who cares? Recruiting violations and paying recruits is akin to jay walking now. Everyone does it knowing it's illegal but very few get any real consequence.


But there are consequences for some and don’t think for a second the NCAA would not revel in being able to use the NY media to further their charade as a “governing body.”
Besides, and this is a personal issue for each to decide, I don’t understand what satisfaction one gets by winning via cheating. I get it the Selfs, Williams, Ks, etc. are amply rewarded for winning by cheating and I understand the greed aspect but personal satisfaction, I don’t get it at all.

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Recruiting Impact on “Scandal Schools” 1 month 1 day ago #380005

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Mike Zaun wrote: Seton Hall had violations, stole Whitehead from us hiring his HS coach, spoke to the Cuse kid while still at Cuse and transferred, UConn tampered with Sid (thank god...he sucks but still), USC gets all these violations but get Brooks back, Creighton gets violations for Patton, Louisville scandal but they keep rolling along as a blue blood.

Sometimes it feels like we are one of the few programs not willing to muck it up a bit. I'm not sure how I feel about that. I'm sure under Lavin we mucked it up to get big time recruits here. Honestly, if no one is being held accountable who cares? Recruiting violations and paying recruits is akin to jay walking now. Everyone does it knowing it's illegal but very few get any real consequence.


Hiring Tiny as an assistant coach to get Whitehead might appear to be unethical, it is not a violation.

The rest, good points.

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Christian Dawkins, in new HBO doc “The Scheme”, details how FBI wanted him to help get Rick Pitino, agent Andy Miller. Also, wiretapped calls featuring Will Wade, Sean Miller are played. Airs March 31, 9 pm

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How deals were made per Christian Dawkins;

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