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Seth Greenberg 2 months 1 week ago #301011

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Paultzman wrote:

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we are sju wrote: In Post today said ST John's struggled last year because of chemistry and bad shot selection. Seemed to lay some blame on Ponds. Also kind of questioned if Ponds and Heron will work because both volume shooters.


No question that the staff will have to have a big year in order for the team to do the same. Lots of talent and interchangeable parts at the 2 and 3, but no pure PG, one basketball to go around for 2 players in their final audition for the NBA, and no inside game to speak of. Plus, no pure shooters, as Simon, Ponds, and Heron are all at their best as slashers. GS has the Splash Brothers, we have the Slash Brothers.

I think Heron will surprise on the perimeter and nail more threes than anticipated. He has really worked on that.


He has a nice stroke, and am glad to hear he has worked hard on it. Still like the fact he has the size and strength to post up, and the quickness to get to the hoop. Team had a lot of ball movement in the Loyola game, but almost all on the perimeter. Our strength is quick and athletic guards and small forwards. What I loved about our near final four team with Artest, Bootsy and Barkley was the great interior passing that our current guys need to be better at. Drive, draw multiple defenders, and quick pass to the open man for an up close shot. No great 3 point shooters, but they didn't have to be with their ability to drive and dish. Except for Simon, our other guards are primarily drive and let fly.
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Seth Greenberg 2 months 1 week ago #301012

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Heron's shot looked pretty and smooth last game. He's known more as a slasher but he really can do both at a high level. He is the antithesis of Ahmed when he first came here as a bull in a china shop. Always under control, smooth, knows what he wants to do, etc. Something I'd like to see us improve a lot is routinely making open 3's. If we are playing a long defense that just shuts us down that's one thing, but it's very frustrating going back to last year when we miss open 3's. The extra pass is made, a guy's wide open and...clunk! Thankfully we seemed to do better with that in the first game vs. last year. We also need to make our bunnies which absolutely killed us last year. Even last game it looked like we left 10 pts or so on the board after getting right to the rim.

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Seth Greenberg 2 months 1 week ago #301017

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I shrug my shoulders at something said by Seth Greenberg. Their are a lot of reasons Seth is sitting on a set somewhere and not sitting on a bench. Oh well, he is entitled to his opinion and it is in his best interest to say something that generates some sizzle no matter how accurate it is or isn't

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Seth Greenberg 2 months 1 week ago #301019

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Moose wrote:

we are sju wrote: In Post today said ST John's struggled last year because of chemistry and bad shot selection. Seemed to lay some blame on Ponds. Also kind of questioned if Ponds and Heron will work because both volume shooters.


Where is Lawmanfan?


It's only been one game, but I think Ponds and Heron showed great chemistry. Heron doesn't appear to be a volume shooter to me. He got his in a variety of ways and he seems fine picking his spots whereas Ponds likes to get his in bunches and then run some point for stretches.
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Seth Greenberg 2 months 1 week ago #301021

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I thought there was something with LJ and Heron too. They seem to like playing with each other.
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Seth Greenberg 2 months 1 week ago #301022

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Marillac wrote:

Moose wrote:

we are sju wrote: In Post today said ST John's struggled last year because of chemistry and bad shot selection. Seemed to lay some blame on Ponds. Also kind of questioned if Ponds and Heron will work because both volume shooters.


Where is Lawmanfan?


It's only been one game, but I think Ponds and Heron showed great chemistry. Heron doesn't appear to be a volume shooter to me. He got his in a variety of ways and he seems fine picking his spots whereas Ponds likes to get his in bunches and then run some point for stretches.


Hey look who is back on here.
What you only save your crazy stuff for JJ?
I agree looked like Heron can get his stuff within the flow and has multiple ways of scoring.
But yea only one game against bad team.

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we are sju wrote:

Marillac wrote:

Moose wrote:

we are sju wrote: In Post today said ST John's struggled last year because of chemistry and bad shot selection. Seemed to lay some blame on Ponds. Also kind of questioned if Ponds and Heron will work because both volume shooters.


Where is Lawmanfan?


It's only been one game, but I think Ponds and Heron showed great chemistry. Heron doesn't appear to be a volume shooter to me. He got his in a variety of ways and he seems fine picking his spots whereas Ponds likes to get his in bunches and then run some point for stretches.


Hey look who is back on here.
What you only save your crazy stuff for JJ?
I agree looked like Heron can get his stuff within the flow and has multiple ways of scoring.
But yea only one game against bad team.


I'm over the moon with Heron. As a Johnny fan I expected the worst. It's only been one game, but he looked just like the 1998-99 guys to me. He can legitimately rebound and take it coast to coast. His post ups were the best we've had since probably Hamilton and any coach worth his salt will make sure that becomes a staple when we need to stop a scoring slump or in the final minutes of close games. His shot looked good and he had solid #s from deep last year.

The biggest question I had coming in to this season is where Simon fits in. I was worried he'd bully his way into a perimeter role. Heron and LJ--and Dixon to a lesser extent--have lead me to believe that Simon will acquiesce to a rebounding forward role before long. Ponds-Heron-LJ-Trimble all seem to play at the same pace and appear to be on the same page. Simon is faster and more wild. Dixon isn't too far behind him.
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Seth Greenberg 2 months 1 week ago #301027

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My memory of Bootsy is great 3 pt shooter, whether born out by stats or not I don't know.

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fuchsia wrote: My memory of Bootsy is great 3 pt shooter, whether born out by stats or not I don't know.


Bootsy hit some big threes and that is what he is known for. The highlight being the 40 he scorched Duke for. But I've said this before that I think his real skill was positioning. He was pretty brilliant and shot over 50% from 2 a lot of that right under the basket.
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Seth Greenberg 2 months 1 week ago #301029

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fuchsia wrote: My memory of Bootsy is great 3 pt shooter, whether born out by stats or not I don't know.


37% at STJ. Good, not great, but as clutch as they come. Made the ones that mattered in the games that mattered. Major reason those teams won 53 games in 2 years.
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