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Big man for 2019-20 1 month 2 weeks ago #354041

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REB wrote: Was there a decision I missed on Ian Steere's request for a waiver to play in the first semester or is this still an open issue?

Open, but ...


I assume that means, for some reason, it doesn't seem likely. Are there more specifics? or just the felling you're getting from people close to it? Thx.


It’s hard to imagine he has much of a case. It isn’t injury or hardship related.


I'm not sure what the rules say but he played 5 minutes in one game and without that he would have been a sit out transfer and would have been eligible at the start of this season.


He played ergo he has to sit a full year. Waiver is more to get the freshman eligibility back.
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Big man for 2019-20 1 month 2 weeks ago #354056

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SJU85 wrote:
He played ergo he has to sit a full year. Waiver is more to get the freshman eligibility back.


I'm clearly biased, but the NCAA should just make him sit the first game he's eligible for, and call him a freshman.

Unfortunately, I think he needs a sob story to pull that off, and pretty sure there wasn't one documented.

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Big man for 2019-20 1 month 2 weeks ago #354057

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SJU85 wrote:

REB wrote:

gman wrote:

REB wrote:

Paultzman wrote:

REB wrote: Was there a decision I missed on Ian Steere's request for a waiver to play in the first semester or is this still an open issue?

Open, but ...


I assume that means, for some reason, it doesn't seem likely. Are there more specifics? or just the felling you're getting from people close to it? Thx.


It’s hard to imagine he has much of a case. It isn’t injury or hardship related.


I'm not sure what the rules say but he played 5 minutes in one game and without that he would have been a sit out transfer and would have been eligible at the start of this season.


He played ergo he has to sit a full year. Waiver is more to get the freshman eligibility back.


First part should say "He ENROLLED" that is why he has to sit a year. The playing or not playing has zero to do with sitting. That is the point even if he had not played a minute he would have to sit a year. The sit rule simply says if you transfer you need to establish a full year of residency at your new school before you can play. Period. Has nothing to do with whether you actually played 1 minute or not at your previous school.

Let me explain one more time with a slightly different example, LOL. Let's say it is mid-October 2018 and Ian Steere decides he wants to transfer. He has not played 1 minute because they have not even played any games. He stays enrolled at NC St for rest of semester and decides to transfer to SJU and enroll at SJU in January of 2019. Meaning everything is the same EXCEPT he did not play in any game. What's different? From a transfer perspective NOTHING. He has to sit a year, period. The difference is by not playing he can use last year as his redshirt year and start off at SJU in mid-December as a REDSHIRT FRESHMAN. This is the difference. By playing 5 minutes in a game last year unless he gets a waiver he is a true SOPHOMORE this year with 3 years of playing eligibility as opposed a redshirt frosh with 4 years of eligibilty.
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Big man for 2019-20 1 month 2 weeks ago #354058

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It seems the Steere situation is a one off, at least I have never heard of anything like this before. Don't really know what to expect but if I had to guess he sits out to January and gets the year back. I think the extra year may turn out to be irrelevant to us because he seems to have a serious case of the rolling stones. To expect him here for four years seems a stretch. Nothing more than a completely uninformed opinion though.

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Big man for 2019-20 1 month 2 weeks ago #354062

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NCAA rules are always fair and easily understood. NOT!
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Big man for 2019-20 1 month 2 weeks ago #354070

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Sid “Vicious” Wilson had to sit but because he never played he stayed a freshman.

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Big man for 2019-20 1 month 2 weeks ago #354080

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Would he ONLY have 2.5 years left if he sits out till January?

As I recall, Matt Brust left Carolina after 1 semester. He arrived in Dec and then sat out 18 months to have 3 full years of eligibility. If Louie played him after the one full year of residency, he only had 2.5 years left.

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Big man for 2019-20 1 month 2 weeks ago #354081

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I think the situation with Ian Steere has been described very well by multiple posters. However, since there is still some discussion, I'll take a crack at it......

If no appeal were filed:
Steere would become eligible to play after this year's first semester (think late December). At that time, he would play his sophomore year.

If an appeal is filed:
It would likely be a petition to reclaim his freshmen status. He would still not be eligible until late December. But, if the appeal were successful, he would then play his freshmen year.

*Under the current transfer rules, considering there have been no personal hardships reported, no one believes Steere or St. John's would be chasing first semester eligibility.
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Big man for 2019-20 1 month 2 weeks ago #354095

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JohnnyFan wrote: I think the situation with Ian Steere has been described very well by multiple posters. However, since there is still some discussion, I'll take a crack at it......

If no appeal were filed:
Steere would become eligible to play after this year's first semester (think late December). At that time, he would play his sophomore year.

If an appeal is filed:
It would likely be a petition to reclaim his freshmen status. He would still not be eligible until late December. But, if the appeal were successful, he would then play his freshmen year.

*Under the current transfer rules, considering there have been no personal hardships reported, no one believes Steere or St. John's would be chasing first semester eligibility.


The possibility of reclaiming his freshman year is certainly good reason to pursue the waiver
Under the circumstances, he should get that year back IMHO

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Big man for 2019-20 1 month 1 week ago #354270

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For those of you in the know, are we going to fill this last scholarship with a big or no? Thanks.

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